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Andy Stuteley's avatar

Very interesting article thanks for the transparency.

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Angela Hollowell's avatar

I've been wanting to dive more into editorial work, both as a photographer and a writer. It's not the highest paying thing, but very fulfilling and allows me to stretch creatively in ways I likely wouldn't under my own brands. Thanks for your transparency here!

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Katherine Clements's avatar

The editorial stuff I’ve done has really helped my own writing, so worth it in lots of ways. Just make sure you charge enough to make it worth your while! ❤️

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MoonShelf Stories's avatar

Enjoyed this very much! Thanks for sharing!

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Yasmin Chopin's avatar

Do you think the publishing industry has changed significantly in the last ten years? To the point where it is less financially viable to go down the traditional publishing route?

I'm a writer, a PhD in Creative Writing, but I feel I don't want to spend my time trying to find an agent or a publisher because it's just too darn unpredictable. I'd rather be more in control of my own ability to earn enough money to keep the lights on... currently on Substack and mentoring.

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Katherine Clements's avatar

I think it has changed and it's harder to get a good traditional deal, but the issues are not new. It's always been hard to make a good wage as a mid-list author unless you're very prolific, or have a breakout hit.

I found that the pressure for my books to be commercially successful killed the joy in my writing, so I made the conscious choice to earn elsewhere. I still believe in trad publishing and that will always be my first choice, but I'm not reliant on it - that's made all the difference in my attitude!

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Yasmin Chopin's avatar

Thanks, Katherine. It's interesting to have this info.

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Katherine Clements's avatar

One way it has changed is digital first, of course, where there is more money for marketing and a different model (no author advance but higher royalties). It all depends what you write and what you want for your work.

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H-F Dessain's avatar

Thank you for your honesty about how 'portfolio' a writing life actually is and the number of different income streams to keep track of. As a fellow Brit, I utterly get the "we don't talk about money" bit. Best wishes for those TV & film options.

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Katherine Clements's avatar

Glad it was helpful!

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Katie Dwyer's avatar

Love the transparency! I wish more people in the industry would talk about money and normalize it.

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Katherine Clements's avatar

So do I! 😆

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Andrea Golden Fisher's avatar

This is incredibly valuable, thank you 🙏🏼

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Annie Ashdown's avatar

Thank you for sharing this

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Anna Dallara's avatar

Thank you for sharing! I’m starting to patch together my own writing income, and posts like this are an important reality check and a source of inspiration.

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Katherine Clements's avatar

I'm glad it resonated, Anna!

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Madelyn Postman's avatar

Katherine, thanks very much for sharing this! It’s a great reality check.

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Elaine R. Frieman's avatar

🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 to your books becoming films! 🎥

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Katherine Clements's avatar

We live in hope!

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Elaine R. Frieman's avatar

Love this so much. 🤩 Thank you so much for sharing this honest look. 😘🫶🏻

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Vanessa Novissimo Wright's avatar

Thank you for sharing this. 🦋

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Ella Beech's avatar

Absolutely resonate with this so much! I feel like I could have written it myself. I’m a “full time” children’s book author/illustrator, who supplements her income in much the same way as you. The difference being that advances for children’s books are much, *much* less. But I guess I make them more frequently (two per year, currently) so it (sort of) adds up to a living. I also agree that the lack of pay is made up hugely by being in charge of your own time, flexibility and living a life that you fully connect to creatively. I used to work full time in-house in publishing (for twenty years) and this is just so much more fulfilling - the money just doesn’t make it worth it to me. And here’s hoping for that stroke of luck us creatives are all hoping for! Xx

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Katherine Clements's avatar

Thank you for this Ella! The longer I work like this the more I appreciate the benefits (and the more unemployable I become 😂)!

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Ella Beech's avatar

Haha, yes! So true!

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Emilie Tveitan's avatar

This is very insightful to read as an aspiring author! Thank you for sharing ✨

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